A very important factor is that if the market drops even one point tomorrow the HO is going to be switched off because of the rule regarding the 50 day MA. And of course it's no surprise that the 50 day moving average of 'any' market will roll over at a market top. So the HO actually has a very small window of opportunity within which to issues signals. It's entirely possible we will 'never' see a second and confirming signal which is why I personally have never depended upon seeing it. We know darned well that the NYSE is very polarized and shakey. For me... that's all I need enough to know.
UPDATED APRIL 17, 2013: Just for the record... as you know the HO issued its "initial" signal on Monday. Yesterday and today it came relatively close but did not fire the second round. The missing piece of the puzzle on both days was that there weren't quite enough new 52 week highs to trigger. 85 were required. According to the WSJ there were 60. According to StockCharts there were 80. In either case... not quite enough. In both cases... too close for comfort.
================= Original Article Below ================
Today the Hindenburg Omen has issued a signal, it's first since August of 2010. But's with a cursed asterisk courtesy of the WSJ. I'm going out on a limb (but not by much) by making this declaration because according to the official source of the data, the WSJ, only 84 new 52 week lows were attained today while 87 were required. The minimum required number of 87 new highs was attained. We've seen enough of this my friends. At least a half dozen times in recent years we have seen the data from the WSJ get "pinned" just shy of requirements for the HO to go off. Each time that happened a sharp market sell-off ensued in the days and weeks following. There comes a time when we have to recognize that just as in the game of "hand grenades", sometimes close is close enough.
I also think we're at that point when a person just has to step up to the plate and say "Ok, enough of this bad habit of reporting
Previous Erroneous Calls Understandable
Contrary to claims by some very well known and respected analysts, people I myself respect a great deal including Dr. Robert McHugh, Sentimentrader and Stockcharts' contributing author, Mr. Arthur Hill (along with a few others), the Hindenburg Omen has not issued any signals in recent weeks or months... not once since August of 2010. It did not issue any signals in December as claimed back then. The signal issued today is official, because believe it or not it's important to use the correct rules for crying out loud. Why so many analysts insist on using the old rules and still screw up half the time even with those ones is something I can't quite understand. That practice is a great example of the truth in the old saying "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Having said that, I do want to make it clear that I have a ton of respect for the names above even though they are either using old rules or, as in the case of Mr. Hill, they are simply misinterpreting one very strict rule... and that being the rule regarding the 50 day moving average on the NYSE. In fact, to his credit, Arthur Hill upon learning that he'd 'misread' the rule regarding the 50 day moving average, corrected his article so that it stated the Hindenburg Omen "almost" went off. It became clear at that point that Mr. Hill had simply misread or misinterpreted that particular rule and made the necessary adjustment. That's what good analysts do.
I also want to make it very clear, I consider the sources mentioned above to be very credible... it's just that with the recent declarations of a UFHO sighting they've just made an innocent error. A couple of years ago when the inventor of the HO, Mr. Jim Meikka, made a few fairly important and very reasonable rule changes in order to account for the increased numbers of ETFs and bond funds, those changes were not broadcast widely. So it's understandable that some analysts are unaware of them. I only discovered them myself by keeping close tabs on what Tom McClellan has to say each week (more on that below).
The 'Official' Rules
I am using all the rules as dictated by Mr. Meikka, including the changes referred to in the above paragraph. And of course, in order to maintain consistency we still use data obtained from the one and only official source, the WSJ. Due to the fact that there were so many erroneous claims of an HO signal recently, I found it necessary to confirm that it wasn't 'me' who was behind the 8-ball in that perhaps there had been a change that I was unaware of. I couldn't imagine why any further recent changes would have been necessary and I highly doubted Mr. Meikka had initiated any. Nonetheless, in order to make certain, I had a recent telephone conversation with Tom McClellan of McClellan Financial Publications, in which Mr. McClellan was kind enough to reaffirm that my understanding of the all the rules regarding the Hindenburg Omen are correct. And Mr. McClellan would know... it's his father's own indicator (NYMO) that forms a large component of the HO's inner workings. As well, Tom McClellan is a friend of Jim Meikka and as such he would be aware of any recent changes in the rules. There have been none. I might add that not only was Tom McClellan very helpful, he's flat out a fun guy to talk with. Now that that topic is finally put to bed, we continue to the meat of the matter for today.
- 50 day moving average for the NYSE must be rising ✔
- number of new 52 week lows must be at least 2.8% of issues that traded and changed in value ✔
- new 52 week highs must also be at least 2.8% of issues that traded and changed in value ✔
- that data must be obtained from the WSJ ✔ *
- new highs cannot be more than double the number of new lows ✔
- McClellan Oscillator (NYMO) must be negative on the day ✔
- [and my own personal unofficial requirement; that when the HO issues any signal 90% of investors must laugh it off as they always do, as a reflection of their utter complacency. This requirement is always fulfilled because during times of market exhilaration, at a time when the market internals are in tatters, investors pay no attention to signals that really, really matter. The Hindenburg Omen is one such signal. ✔
Today's Signal Might be Ignored
Pertaining to that last rule, what's even more likely is that with so many false alarms having been issued by those who seem to have the extreme craving to "be the first to report it", the main stream media probably won't even mention today's HO signal. That's a sad situation because in its own right an HO signal at this ungodly stage of an incredible madness induced market rally could almost be seen as an historic event. We'll see! As well, the general sentiment is so diabolically complacent thanks to the madness of bankers and the resulting euphoria that madness creates among the uninformed masses, that any mention of any type of signal that indicates the market just might be in the earliest stages of a crash simply will not be tolerated. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
So that's it... all requirements for a signal were met only moments ago. So the HO went off today and I imagine so will half the bears out there in Stockworld. But before they do, it's very important to have a clear understanding about what this all means....
SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN THE HO ISSUES A SIGNAL?
If you haven't done so, I highly recommend you read So The HO Issues A Signal. What Happens Next? In fact I've been recommending for a year and a half now that investors should read that piece before the HO issues a signal just so that you know ahead of time exactly what to expect. If you haven't read it yet no worries, just read it now so you know what the odds are of various outcomes in the weeks ahead. In a nutshell, despite the ominous name, an HO signal does not necessarily mean "Ok ladies and gentlemen, I advise that you now begin to panic." Nor does it necessarily imply that a life changing, market crashing, 'death to many businesses' event is about to happen, but just that the odds are only 27% that such an event is about to occur. But let's not fool ourselves, with a global credit crisis 100 times worse than any ever before seen in the history of the solar system we should consider a signal from the HO as most likely being fairly serious this time around. As in... "the odds of an iron meteor the size of New Jersey slamming into our planet are only 27%". Only 27 percent! Things could be worse!
Some Decline is Very Likely
But in the name of calm, we also need to recognize that if past history of HO signals (and what occurred after them) is an accurate guide for what would happen this time around, the greater odds suggest a somewhat milder correction than what most people might envision. Keep in mind that the HO is not designed to tell us what size that correction might be. All it has done is to alert us to the fact that a relatively rare extreme condition has been reached in the markets that reveals an unusually high degree of polarity. It reveals that there are relatively few healthy horses pulling the stock markets uphill these days. And while they struggle to keep the market afloat, there are now plenty of horses pulling the old stock wagon downhill at the same time, and even as the 50 day moving average of the NYSE is heading higher.
Virtually No Upside Potential Exists
Bottom line? The odds of further upside are almost non-existent when so many of the animals in the stock yard are pulling in opposite directions. Animals like that superstud of a corporation Amazon, with a P/E ratio of 28000:1, recapturing all of it's 10% slaughter after the earnings report about a year ago and then tacking on another 4% the next day... as compared to that AAPL with a measly $100 billion in the bank, falling more than 39% since its Sept. high. See what I'm talking about? That's the kind of polarity the HO detects market-wide. The odds are 93% that something is going to break at least a little bit. There is a 54% chance that it will be a decline of at least 8-10% (the entire data list is posted below).
The Signal is Only Halfway Complete
Keep in mind today's signal is only the first of two required, one which Mr. Meikka calls the "initial signal". However, it's critically important to understand that a market correction doesn't need that second signal in order to decline. Today's action is clear enough evidence of that truth. However, in order for the HO alarm to go off "officially", a second signal must be issued within 36 days. That second signal usually occurs within a much shorter period than that however. It could happen tomorrow, next week or the week after that. Nonetheless, although the signal is not considered "official" until that second occurrence, let's be realistic. We as investors have now been given ample evidence of the high degree of stress within the market. And by "high degree", the fact that the HO issues signals fairly rarely is evidence enough that any HO signal is an outlier. This is one more reason why it's so darned important to weed out the false claims of an HO event. The legitimate ones just don't happen that often. So even though today's signal is just the first, I sure as heck would not remain long or consider buying the dip at this point regardless of whether or not we see a second signal. In fact it would be idiotic to wait for a second signal before we finally recognize and accept what is actually happening inside the guts of market.
From the piece I mentioned above about "what happens next", here's a brief summary showing the odds of what will happen based on the entire history behind the HO since 1985: These are not guesses. These are hard facts based what happened previously based on two and a half decades of pure Hindenburg Omen history:
Major Crash - 27% probability
Selling panic of at least 10-15% - 39% probability
Sharp decline of at least 8-10% - 54% probability
Meaningful decline of at least 5-8% - 77% probability
Mild decline of at least 2-5% - 92% probability
The HO signal is an outright miss - 7.7% probability (one out of 13 times)
Wishing all of you the best. Stay safe.
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Thanks for the heads-up Alberta.
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ReplyDeleteYou're welcome guys. I gotta run now so I won't be able to be around to chat about it until midnight ET. But damn that WST pisses me off. They've done that at least a half dozen times in the past two years. Maybe more. Including during the week of the flash crash... TWICE.
ReplyDeleteI think the words 'Wall Street' in WSJ give it away, in my view.
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Good to see a new HO update.
ohh the humanity.. are we actually going to fall more than 5% across multiple months, lol ?
good stuff Mr Rocks
ReplyDeleteThanks AR, all the pieces are surely in place. Appreciate the timely update. Also like the triple top trendline connecting the three all-time-highs which was met last Thursday
ReplyDeleteThanks AR..as the name implies you rock I am personally not settling for anything less than a close under 1300 (to start) and have all the time in the world. When we get near the double top the only thing I will not throw at it is the kitchen sink. Everything else must go..as PB said...Short everything!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind words my friend. What was so damned funny about what Papa Boule said was the actual words "Short all the things." I still laugh at that.
ReplyDeleteHi Mars, nice to see you again. Thanks for dropping in. This place has been ungodly quiet ever since Fam opened her blog and to be honest that suits me just fine. Friends drop in here from time to time and I just love that. But I barely have time to reply to the few comments that do land here, let alone run a full time chat room like Fam does. She has the time for that and it helps keep her place lively. But this place can go quiet and that frees me up to do more TA work and trading and reading and writing and pooping and all the other stuff I love to do. The doors are always open here and the beer is always fresh and cold. So swing by any time you like
ReplyDeleteTY CR. I'm glad that aside from the friendly kidding you 'do' understand what this kind of polarity means. Naturally Asswipe took a swipe at my comment over at the hovel which proves yet again that no matter how hard he tries, he'll never match the cut of your jib.
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Looks like ZH picked up on this just about 17 minutes after your post. No credits given . . . as though they were on top of it and an alarm went off (which could be the case of course). It also looks like they're using the old rules, or different rules?
ReplyDeleteSome brainstorming for you:
Regarding the rules, rule #4 is really a data source issue. Couldn't we have a WSJ Hindy, and a Yahoo Hindy, with the difference being the data source? As long as it is made clear that the WSJ is the ORIGINAL, and the Yahoo a "complement" of sorts? It would also serve as confirmation of sorts?
Also: since we have a McClellan on the NASDAQ as well, wouldn't it be logical to develop the same thing for the Nazzy? I like what ZH has to say about rule #2 (the 2.2% rule): "This is not a rule but more like a checksum." It seems perfectly moldable to the NASDAQ, don't you think?
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Yeah I noticed ZH coming out like the heroes they like to portray themselves to be. The tip-off was the fact that in the past they had reported false signals at least 3 or 4 times. And each time I reported why the signal was false. Honestly dude, I've been fighting with all these false reports for 4 years now, trying to explain to people that you can't just listen to Joe Blow who says the HO issued a signal. People gotta get their facts straight. But anyway... the tip off yesterday was when ZH reported that this is the first signal since August 2010. Guess where they got that accurate fact from? Doesn't matter, at least they're starting to report it accurately and their readership is gigantic. That's what I'm trying to accomplish anyway, so it's all good.
ReplyDeleteAbout rule #4 - Yes indeed, it's the rule that addresses the data source issue. And so far, for the entire life of the HO, the WSJ has been the source that Jim Meikka used. So he says to continue to use that source in order to maintain continuity. And to me that makes perfect sense as well. But about 3 years ago I used to use the data from StockCharts and it was 'slightly' different on most days, but not by much. However, on days when we got real close to seeing an HO signal StockCharts data said the HO went off but the WSJ data said it didn't. So I got in touch with a guy from StockCharts and asked him 2 questions: First, "why do the two data sources differ at times", and second, "Who's data is more accurate". He knew I was asking the questions out of determination to get the facts straight regarding the HO. His response was that since I was using the data for reporting on the HO, I should use the WSJ data. I imagine the reason for that was twofold. I think StockCharts didn't want to get involved in a pissing contest to see whose data was more accurate. And I don't think they could ever be accused of helping to issue a signal on the HO when it actually never happened. And perhaps a third reason... maybe they are also aware that the WSJ is the source "dictated to us" by Mr. Meikka.
And then StockCharts' own analyst, Arthur Hill, issued a false report because he didn't understand the rule about the 50 day MA, lol. He said that as long as price was above the 50 day MA the HO was in working order. He was wrong about that and the HO did not go off when he published an article saying it had. He later recanted once I pointed out his error. I didn't tell him directly but he must have seen me write about it somewhere because he changed his article shortly thereafter to read that the "HO almost went off".
Honestly HR, I think that to add more sources like Yahoo would just add to the confusion. When ZH talks about the 2.2% rule... they addressing one super important factor in the HO. By the way, they've got that wrong too. That rule was thrown out almost 3 years ago so they've still got their heads up their asses on that one. The rule was changed 3 years ago to 2.8% in order to adjust for the increased number of bond funds and ETFs, particularly the inverse ones.. But yes indeed, that rule is perfectly adaptable to the Nasdaq and I have seen times when the HO almost went off but didn't, while on the Nasdaq it did. But I don't report those occurrences because they actually have little to do with the HO and it's history. Again... why add to the confusion? I've been a purist on this entire matter since day one and I leave it to the others to make up shit, lol.
Thanks AR! This doesn't relate to the HO, but I thought you would and your readers might find it interesting. I recently (last night) had a chat with a local news editor in the Middle East, a good friend, who has made it clear to me that the situation over their is much worse that our press is letting on. We all know that the Iran/Israel situation is a tinderbox, but there are several other places that could erupt also that coverage here seems to be either missing or dismissing. Much of the area is still in turmoil after the "Arab Spring" and it is just getting worse instead of better. My friend was born and raised in Egypt and follows the region very closely from UAE. If a catalyst is needed to wake the global markets up, it could come from the ME. But there is no telling when things will really unravel and become untenable by world leaders. Most will try to keep out of the mess in hopes it will settle down. But that doesn't seem to be working. Only time will tell.
ReplyDeleteIt that my same buddy Mark Bern from SA?
ReplyDeleteI've met a ton of people from those regions in recent years. People from nearly every middle east country, and I gotta tell ya, the ones that have impressed me the most are the Iranians. They have a sense of confidence that I haven't seen in other nationalities in years. They are well aware that they are from ancient Persia and seem absolutely fearless of Israel. But they also seem almost "unattached" to Iran for the time being because they don't like the administration. But they love their country. Sound familiar?
These folks I'm referring to are young, in their 20s and 30s so I'm not sure if they were born in Canada or over there. At the very least their parents are from there and these kids might be as well. But they speak English with perfection so I'm just not sure. But good looking? Holy smokes those young women that I've met from Iran are gorgeous. Their smiles are quite captivating to tell the truth. Very nice people.
Iran has a lot of strikes against it economically and politically, but what it has always had is a great higher education system. Even though the radicals took over the rest of the country and tried to take it back to the dark ages, they had to keep programs like oil & gas, engineering, and medicine modern in order to keep the economy from collapsing. It was a pretty open system until a few years ago when they cracked down on the democracy protests. I've met Iranians who have emigrated to N America. I suppose the best students are the ones that make it over here anyway, but it is surprising talking with them. The conventional wisdom and media coverage leads us to believe it's a backwards wasteland, but that's not the case at all.
ReplyDeleteSome other things are happening too. The Arab side of the Persian Gulf is now a pretty vibrant area for enterprise and tourism. I think a lot of that has been rubbing off on Iran over the past decade. There's a large black market in Iran that gets supplied from across the gulf.
Plus the collapse of Iraq has had some interesting effects. Many Christians fled to Iran because they're churches were getting bombed and are settling in the urban areas.
Does he say anything about the fuel shortage in Egypt?
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ReplyDeleteit's roughly a month since i got first sell signals aligned , today we've closed less than 10 SPX pts higher. Traders' market.
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ReplyDeleteKurdistan is supposedly where the garden of eden was or at least inspired the story.
It's a region that spills over the (European imposed) borders of five countries. It's relatively stable area nowadays and could be a model for the rest of the region.
I have some friends from the Iraqi side. They fled around the time Saddam was gassing them in the 80s. They spent a lot of time in safe havens in Iran before coming here.
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http://highrevsopenhouse.blogspot.com/2013/04/short-covering-stop-running.html#comment-865857072
Very spooky. Don't know if you saw this already, but in case you didn't . . .
ReplyDeletehttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-15/what-happened-last-time-we-saw-gold-drop
Then I put together a little longer term chart, and I'm not sure I see too much longer term correlation here. Things actually flip flopped in 2011 . . .
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Repeating the update at the top of the post:
ReplyDeleteJust for the record... as you know the HO issued its "initial" signal onMonday. Yesterday and today it came relatively close but did not fire the second round. The missing piece of the puzzle on both days was that there weren't quite enough new 52 week highs to trigger. 85 were required. According to the WSJ there were 60. According to StockCharts there were 80. In either case... not quite enough. In both cases... too close for comfort.
I just did a big update to my last post in the comments section. Star the discussion
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Great work pardner. Thanks for the heads up. And "starred" you are :-)
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Technical damage abounds on equity indexes.
BOJ's money is not flowing like QE1, QE2, QE3, and QE4 did (into gold, emerging economies, tech stocks, aud).
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It's all sounding like the twilight zone.
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That sounds reasonable. And the smack down may be over.
ReplyDeleteBut I wonder if we are close to a moment of mass recognition that paper gold (GLD) is over valued (not enough gold to support the number of certificates issued). Gold is selling for higher mark up to paper prices than before. Silver too. The treasury has run out of gold coins. Demand is very high for physical.
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Prechter's just gone fully-leveraged short - "designed to take advantage of what we believe is the area of a major top for a decline toward a major bottom about three years hence."
ReplyDeleteI think you must be right. Why is there a draw down? Are people taking it out of storage because they don't trust storages?
ReplyDeleteMy friend can't find ANY silver or gold to buy. If a dealer has it he isn't selling it for a loss -- he paid $30 for some of it. And if they get some in to the dealer, he wants to keep it to sell it when it gets back to $50. Most dealers say they aren't seeing any new supply coming in ... just people wanting to buy it.
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I agree with Prechter this time. Good odds here ... broken wedge down with 5-waves, and 3-waves up to retest the bottom of the broken wedge, and a complete valid count to get here. And with the world losing confidence in the latest round of QE from Japan (they aren't buying risk assets like everyone had hoped maybe).
ReplyDeleteBest set up I've ever seen.
USDJPY:
ReplyDeleteLooks like a beautiful triangle for B of (iv) of iii of extended 5th of Minor 3.
Just like everything else in the yen for 6 months. Text book. 3 wavers. Perfect line support and resistance.
Chewing up time for a correction after the monster (iii) move.
Was suspecting it wanted to head back to the channel (i) to (iii) parallel with (ii) to this (iv).
Skewering all the news-readers expecting 100 to fold because of the G-20 agreement.
Just a beautiful thing to watch unfold. Like it's been scripted. I think it has been.
Thank you for explaining that, I've been perplexed about what's going on under the hood with all these deliveries and how futures contracts work. Haven't explored that market before. Thanks again.
ReplyDeleteGood count Greg. Looks like a fourth wave flat so far.
ReplyDeleteAlthough the channel is being tested now.
Max Keiser interviewed Andrew Maguire this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdHsAWDrAk (from 12:40). He echoes Fekete's fear of permanent backwardation in paper gold, effectively a default by the LBMA. In fairness the gold crowd have been saying this for years, but it doesn't mean they won't be right eventually. I wouldn't like to bet against Maguire, he's a shrewd cookie.
ReplyDeleteThanks Greg, I tried playing this C wave down on the break of 99.30, but it was a bucking broncoe and I got tossed off with my lowered stop. And my nerves got a bit frayed and it was 2 am, so I went to sleep :). But there will be more pips to be had for wave 5 up.
ReplyDeleteWell, does anybody else think the top was in two weeks ago?
ReplyDeleteSP500 just touched bottom of broken trend line for wave ii.
Let wave iii begin.
Gold started looking impulsive again.
US 10-years are breaking out.
AUDUSD looks like it could be done with 1-2,i-ii,(i)-(ii).
Japan isn't buying stocks. So, QE impetus is fading ... it's not increasing monies to market.
Banks are probably in dire straits with LEVERAGED losses now in:
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e. AUD was a massacre last week.
Do the banks have an exit plan? Would they really keep buying stocks with money from the bond sales? At these levels?
MMM said a stronger dollar cut into their revenue growth by 1.8%.
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I daren't think the top is in, Greg. Every time I do - boom, another massive buying spree. Depressing.
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ReplyDeleteBut that break on SP500 and retouch of broken support ... that's the good set up there ... 5 down , 3 up. But yes, better wait for proof.
Decelerating GDP in US after all this QE.
ReplyDeleteAfter you strip out effects of silly changes in inventory, here's the annual growth rate picture according to Barron's:
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Q4 2012 1.9%
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Not that fundamentals matter one whit.
But money is flowing to defensives with dividends in the US, and even defensives in emerging markets.
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Could it possibly be that now, after all these years, we have arrived at the beginning of the next big wave down?
Kind of quiet at the top.
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ReplyDeleteNo the HO hasn't been close at all lately because there have been a lot of new 52 week highs being made... too many for the HO but not enough to be impressive for a market that is so close to an all-time high. It'll likely take another pullback of 2 or 3 percent to trigger it again.
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I would like to learn more about bitcoin, because anything taking a store of money out of the manipulators hands is a very good thing. These currencies are insane. ALL the bankers printing, and since the worse debt offenders are printing to buy debt from the others, none of the central bankers mind. And it's hard to buy silver and gold physical. Today's notice was that 15,000 monster boxes of silver (500 oz) sold out in 4 minutes. Last week it took 8 minutes to sell out.
And your comment about elliott waves working beautifully since there is no big player distorting it, well that's just outstanding! It's hard to find those markets. USDJPY acted that way for a good bit. But it sure is beautiful to see perfect wave forms. Gives you an advantage to be able to see them too. Like counting cards in black jack. Sometimes it can be like peeking at the dealers hand, almost feels like cheating :)
And thanks for the HO update. Interesting that all those 52 week highs are probably from defensive issues like utilities and medical and consumer staples. Lots of currencies setting up for 1-2,i-ii,(i)-(ii). So much more bearish than SP500 which may have just finished 1-2.
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Morning all, hope everyone is well. Has DK been around lately? Would love to hear his thoughts on the AUD.
ReplyDeleteHochberg has been sounding like a stuck record recently but his comments last night were amusing:
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Checked in on Daneric's comments board for the first time in months yesterday, Greg. And who did I find batting away the trolls?! You have more far patience than me, sir!
ReplyDeleteHahaha. A rare drop-in visit for me as well.
ReplyDeleteI swore that place off this year, and only make it back once or twice a month.
It's a ghost town as far as good contributions go.
Sad -- right at the top it's been successfully ruined.
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Nice comments. That is amusing.
ReplyDeleteEU's contractions being caused by too high interest rates is like saying high rates of cancer is caused by a lack of chemotherapy. Hahaha.
Hey, check out DK's site over there ... Death or Glory.
He's got some updated (3 days ago) counts on AUDUSD.
I think it may have started iii. that 2 wave was looking like an WXY three days ago, but may have announced itself as an abc, and completed with yesterday's breakage.
Hi Tom. DK shows up every once in a while over at Fam's blog but he's not overly active there either. But that's where I see him most often although I don't participate there much more either. It hasn't developed the way I was hoping it would with some of the participants there just finding it impossible to drop the "Daneric's" topic. They go over there to stir the shit and then scurry back to Fam's for safety. Just not my kind of activity. Mind you, the other day I myself did drop into Danno's to drop off an amusing picture. And of course I got the usual assholish comment from Wagner, slapped him right back, and then left. But to go there to stir things up is just not in the spirit of leaving there in the first place. The majority of blog sites out there don't permit assholes to hang about, this being one of them, but those sites also don't attract very large audiences. Pretty revealing fact, yes? lol Good to see you as always :-)
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ReplyDeleteShockingly, the ending diagonal is still technically valid even with a new high ...
ReplyDeleteAnd notice that these recent up days had low volume, so there is distribution going on even with the new high.
And ED's can have over throws I think I read.
Just went for a run and the following connection came to me:
ReplyDeleteMaybe the top won't be in for equities until the yen's third minor wave tops.
DK said something similar earlier this week to me on his blog or in a tweet ... he's not looking for tops until AUDJPY tops on his wave count. I'm looking at USDJPY, and think it has two more waves up to go (v) of iii of extended 5th, and then v to finish off Minor 3. Target 107ish.
So, if the yen is being used as a carry trade funding currency since it's declining in value (a key trait of a carry trade currency), then it will continue to be used as a funding currency UNTIL it no longer declines in value. Like in minor wave 4. Surely the yen weakness has inspired japanese buying of dollar denominated things (bonds and equities). Foreign fund flow into US has exploded, I hear.
I also think now EVERYONE and their brother assumes the market can only go up because of the Fed.
ReplyDeleteFor a bear to suggest this is a top, they would get ridiculed. Which is a topping sign.
Thanks AR, I will want to read these over the weekend, and start catching up on the bitcoin. Merci in advance! Thanks for sharing your knowledge gleaned!
ReplyDeleteOne more new high! Tis amazing.
ReplyDeleteGlad I spend more time with USDJPY. Much more predictable than that market.
Don't understand how you can continue to call crashes and miss a huge bull market....just pure nonsense..Hope you people actually don't trade for real money...jeez!
ReplyDeleteI've lost count of topping signs over the last couple of months tho. Stopped out for the third time recently, getting expensive now. At least I'm not leveraged short without a stop like a certain veteran newsletter writer. Really not sure at what point to risk going back in. Time to cool off and reassess.
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I have virtually given up trying to count AUDUSD recently -it's just such a mess.
My main focus has been tracking AUDJPY which I believe is going to be 'The Holy Grail'- I have set up a blog just for this single purpose-
http://dkdeathorglory.blogspot.com
I do have a sneaky feeling that AUDUSD still wants to make it to 1.06 for one last time, but that's based more on gut feeling than anything more concrete.
There is talk now of an interest rate cut tomorrow (May 7th), so that could get it rolling to the downside.
All ze best
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I suppose their power, length, ratios etc depend on where and when they manifest.
in USDJPY current C wave = exactly 2.61 x A -this is quoted as 'rare' according to EWI.
either way, I would suggest once this triangle resolves to 101-102, we'll see if we get impulsive to the downside or something more resembling your 4th wave.
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AUDUSD broke levels not broken for over a year, and a third wave down has been started (my opinion).
EURUSD may have started down with iii.
GBPUSD may be getting ready to plunge.
Daneric has an inverted H&S on the dollar basket.
Will the equities have to follow?
Gold and silver ETF's have to be ready for panic soon with paper demands : physical above 130:1 according to ZH.
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ReplyDeleteThink many third waves are beginning in the currency market.
Equities be damned.
It strikes me that the search for yield has been much worse of an effect this time than in 2006.
Then people bought MBS.
Now they are buying bonds from Germany, Spain, etc., currencies to get yield (high risk), even US bonds to get away from currency devaluations. Buying stocks on leverage.
Then investors shorted Lehman into oblivion. Now the yen is getting shorted into oblivion to make a return. Aided by BOJ. Countries currencies are so strong it's causing problems, so they are weakening them (AUD) by lowering rates.
Now I don't think USDJPY was a triangle after all, but an abc for (iv), and i,ii,iii so far of (v). Cause that e-wave wasn't a 3-waver .. but an abcxabc. Not that it matters much. But 97 + 5 = 102 still the target for (v) also.
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ReplyDeleteJust saw DK's counts ... and mention that AUDUSD. EURUSD and GBPUSD may not be ready to plunge yet. One last wiggle higher first.
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I sympathise, AR. Feel much the same.
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1. Japan has 25x debt to tax revenues.
2. So, if these costs went immediately to their debt service costs, they would now be paying 0.20% x 25 = 5% more of tax revenues to service their monstrous debt. So, if it spikes another 40 basis points, that would be 10% more of their tax revenues to go to debt service.
3. So, it won't take much of a yield spike before they are bankrupt.
4. As they go bankrupt, the usdjpy should continue to sky rocket.
5. Since capital can't flee that debt black hole fast enough.
6. What's the only safe haven currency left? USD.
7. What's been spiking since Thursday? USD.
8. And this yield spike is AFTER the BOJ announced in April they would be buyers of JGB's. So why are the Japanese selling them?
9. And as Kyle Bass says, the Japanese have no idea what they are asking for ... 2% inflation will bankrupt them faster than if they did nothing.
Makes me wonder if the USDJPY will just go into spike mode instead of finishing minor 3, then 6 months of minor 4, then 6 months of minor 5 for intermediate 1, then intermediate 2, and a year later, intermediate 3 to get us into the 150 range. Spike ala 1997.
Incidentally, the Asian Currency Crisis started with hot money flows to high yielding countries, a real estate bubble there, a strong dollar really messed with the equation.
The dollar looks ready to rumble!
Interesting that the currency markets are starting to break down -- third waves are about to crest. AUDUSD broke some key resistance levels, and has already sold of 600 pips in a couple weeks. That is huge. Third wave may be beginning at long last. GBPUSD is making noise for the third wave. Not sure yet, but potential is there. EURUSD will eventually make a third wave. The equity markets? Who knows. But Japanese yields spiking! We are close to major stresses in financial markets if capital starts fleeing Japan like it already looks like it is. USDJPY has risen 30% in 6 months. Japanese are dumping JGB's and buying other bonds to get out of their wrecked currency country.
ReplyDeleteWe are close to an implosion my spidey senses are starting to tingle.
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ReplyDeleteIt's interesting to hear all the hints the Fed has put out there, and nobody believes it.
SPX 1648 and counting. 100 points in 16 trading days. Beyond belief.
ReplyDeleteIf we take the head as the low of 22 April, we've just completed an iH&S targeting 1650. We've also just tagged the LT trendline connecting the bottoms of the 1994 and 2002 lows.
ReplyDeleteTrying a short here at just below highs for the day, stops just above. Prechter still leveraged short without a stop from high 1590s remember...
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On the other hand, the USD, Dr. Copper, PM's, oil, and the like are not so keen on things.
This just tweeted by Bill Gross:
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Chart posted in a reply a little lower ( http://albertarocks-ta-discussions.blogspot.com.es/2013/04/hindenburg-omen-issues-first-signal_15.html#comment-897282020 ): https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/492/8623/original.jpg
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ReplyDeleteIt could be the spiking JGB's is what started freaking out the currency market.
ReplyDeleteBecause that means Japan is getting ever closer to a Greece-like event.
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So capital flows are flowing to the dollar.
That's very spooky.
ReplyDeleteWould be even funerer if you overlaid the next bit of 1987 on it too.
Can you do that- or you would need a way bigger chart,lol?
So, banks are shorting AUDUSD into oblivion, having done that already to the yen for 6 months.
ReplyDeleteIt strikes me that things have gotten much worse than in 2008.
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